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Where is the Vibe in "Vibe Coding" and what happened to Music Monday?

Ingo Steinke, web developer on June 25, 2025

I'm not "All In on AI" at all. I'm still quite skeptical about the current LLM-based AI assistant hype. Of course, I'm still using AI, despite its ...
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@michaeltharrington and @thomasbnt
Here's a new track I've found

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Thomas Bnt

Oh that good for a starting weekend

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Michael Tharrington was part of the DEV Team and used to run Music mondays.
Since he left, Mondays have been w/o music. πŸ˜”

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Giorgi Kobaidze

Great post! And thanks for referencing my article, appreciate that!

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Ingo Steinke, web developer • Edited

Thanks! Glad you like it, although I think yours is the better article.
I have made several amendments to mine, correcting typos and adding credits and a disclaimer so that nobody mistakes me for the real Hunor MΓ‘rton or the imaginary Jengo Stone.

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Ingo Steinke, web developer • Edited

Afterthought: the recent Pragmatic Engineer newsletter quotes that AI tool providers rely heavily on AI-aided coding. A thought crossed my mind, that maybe they are already tumbling into a downward spiral a declining code quality. At least that would explain why Windsurf, Cursor, and Claude performed so badly when I tested them last week.

”Today, 90% of the code for Claude Code is written by Claude Code(!),” Anthropic’s Chief Product Officer Mike Krieger says." Asked how the Windsurf team use their own product to build Windsurf, the team told them that β€œ~95% of our code is written using Windsurf’s agent Cascade and the passive coding feature, Windsurf Tab,” and ”~40-50% of Cursor’s code is written from output generated by Cursor,” the engineering team at the dev tools startup estimated

Source: Software engineering with LLMs in 2025: reality check, by Gregerly Orosz, posted on Juli 1st, 2025 at newsletter.pragmaticengineer.com/p...

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Ingo Steinke, web developer

Maybe we should use AI coding assistants only like a classic teddy bear, talking and explaining your problems and then find the solution yourself!

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david duymelinck

You must have had a fancy teddy bear, mine was not able to respond.

All kidding aside, it feels like we are racing to a cliff. When I see posts I feel people are less aware of the consequences of decisions they make. If AI generates it, that will be the best way, it will be the truth.
That started long before AI, but with AI it feels likes people are the equivalent of code rubberstampers. Like people gave up thinking for themselves.

I think it going to discourage a lot of people from going into IT, and I think software is going to become less secure and more energy consuming.

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NiKole Maxwell • Edited

Gemini is not a monolith! The results you get from your experience with Gemini 100% depend on WHERE you are using it and sometimes when. Some flavors of him are absolute trash spinning up the worst of whatever misogynistic dev its foundation was built on (the history of stack overflow mixed with the 10x++, arrogance) but others have likable personality and might even beat out even the warmest Claude or custom trained happy Devs with just being real. And yes he is a him, they all have personalities and that is the part we fail to digest because "AI" "isn't a real boy" (ala Pinocchio).

Here is a digestible flavor of what I said: Google is A/B testing their models (imho), so you never know what you are going to get. CLI is a good example, they can take it back and return their regular Code Assistant and I will be a happy camper.

Vibe Coding is a vibe - all you need is headphones, coffee and the will to push past the loop of "Error, this message did not complete its response" and getting charged for it. I agree though, its not the right name for the movement.

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Ingo Steinke, web developer

No wonder we're beta testing their free products. That's the MVP principle we know, but it's also what makes startups lose customers and eventually fail if they don't resolve their promises and fix their stuff before customers turn their backs as soon as there's a new alternative.

AI adoption rates are already slowing and people are feeling the AI hype is dying down: reddit.com/r/ChatGPTPro/comments/1...

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Neurabot

Cool. Great post.

When updating code of website files in management files cpanel, I have a problem.

I don't easily automatically update them in browser. I must do it 1 time. After it, i must clean browser to show another upgrade of code of files. How should I easily update browser to easily program in internet ?

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Dotallio

Totally feel you on missing the community 'vibe' - curated playlists and that Monday morning rush were part of why coding felt special for me, too.

Out of curiosity, are there any songs you always go back to when you’re in the coding zone?